[Elecraft] Ham Radio Deluxe: some new features

[Peter Halpin]

Hi all,

I see from the stats file that 43 K2 users have registered as Ham Radio =
Deluxe users: I have to say that I'd expected more, 'cos what do people =
do with all those KIO2s?

Simon and I have been busy adding auxiliary switching via the parallel =
port during the last week - it is now ready for release, and can be =
found on Simon's site at www.hb9drv,ch. You are also advised to download =
the documentation (in .PDF format) which explains exactly how the =
auxiliary switching works. Obvious functions are for use with antenna =
relays, bandpass filters - or even external power amplifiers.

The Ham Radio Deluxe suite of programs can now be used with DXLabs =
software: for those wanting a logbook option this is a neat way to go, =
as it saves us developing yet another logbook program - and DXKeeper is =
pretty easy to use. For info on this please visit www.qsl.net/dxlab

Apart from the obvious K2, the following rigs are now supported:

Ten-Tec Argonaut, Yaesu FT-100, FT-1000D, FT-1000MP, FT-817, FT-847, =
FT-857, FT-897,ICOM IC-703,
IC-706, IC-706MkII, IC-706MkIIG, IC-718, IC-735, IC-7400, IC-746, =
IC-746Pro, IC-756, IC-756Pro,
IC-756ProII, IC-775DSP, IC-781, IC-910H, Kenwood TS-140S, TS-2000, =
TS-450S, TS-50S,
TS60S, TS-570, TS-680S, TS-690S, TS-850, TS-870, TS-940S, TS-950

with many more in the pipeline.

The Ham Radio Deluxe suite of programs is FREEWARE, and contains a CAT =
program, a rather sophisticated PSK31 program with SuperBrowser - =
display up to 40 QSOs at a time - plus a mapping program.

You are invited to join the Ham Radio Deluxe usergroup at =
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ham-radio-deluxe/ where you will find a =
helpful bunch of people who can answer most questions that you might =
have.


By the way, Simon has been awarded the RSGB's Special 90th Anniversary =
Award for his "significant contribution to the advancement of amateur =
radio technology" for this package - so it must be worth at least a =
casual glance :-)

145, Pete PH1PH - G7ECN K2 #2768




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[Gregg Lengling]

Oops you had a typo the link should be http://www.hb9drv.ch


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Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Radio Deluxe: some new features

Hi all,

I see from the stats file that 43 K2 users have registered as Ham Radio
Deluxe users: I have to say that I'd expected more, 'cos what do people =
do
with all those KIO2s?

Simon and I have been busy adding auxiliary switching via the parallel =
port
during the last week - it is now ready for release, and can be found on
Simon's site at www.hb9drv,ch. You are also advised to download the
documentation (in .PDF format) which explains exactly how the auxiliary
switching works. Obvious functions are for use with antenna relays, =
bandpass
filters - or even external power amplifiers.

The Ham Radio Deluxe suite of programs can now be used with DXLabs =
software:
for those wanting a logbook option this is a neat way to go, as it saves =
us
developing yet another logbook program - and DXKeeper is pretty easy to =
use.
For info on this please visit www.qsl.net/dxlab

Apart from the obvious K2, the following rigs are now supported:

Ten-Tec Argonaut, Yaesu FT-100, FT-1000D, FT-1000MP, FT-817, FT-847, =
FT-857,
FT-897,ICOM IC-703,
IC-706, IC-706MkII, IC-706MkIIG, IC-718, IC-735, IC-7400, IC-746, =
IC-746Pro,
IC-756, IC-756Pro,
IC-756ProII, IC-775DSP, IC-781, IC-910H, Kenwood TS-140S, TS-2000, =
TS-450S,
TS-50S,
TS60S, TS-570, TS-680S, TS-690S, TS-850, TS-870, TS-940S, TS-950

with many more in the pipeline.

The Ham Radio Deluxe suite of programs is FREEWARE, and contains a CAT
program, a rather sophisticated PSK31 program with SuperBrowser - =
display up
to 40 QSOs at a time - plus a mapping program.

You are invited to join the Ham Radio Deluxe usergroup at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ham-radio-deluxe/ where you will find a
helpful bunch of people who can answer most questions that you might =
have.


By the way, Simon has been awarded the RSGB's Special 90th Anniversary =
Award
for his "significant contribution to the advancement of amateur radio
technology" for this package - so it must be worth at least a casual =
glance
:-)

145, Pete PH1PH - G7ECN K2 #2768




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[Thomas Beaudry]

Post by Peter Halpin
I see from the stats file that 43 K2 users have registered as
Ham Radio Deluxe users: I have to say that I'd expected more,
'cos what do people do with all those KIO2s?

Some of us are as picky about our computers as we are about our radios
and use Apples.

73,

[Gregg Lengling]

Actually I'm sure the number is greater now as I registered =
today...should
at least be 44 K2 users.

Now we need a KIO option on the KX1 so I can use my laptop in the park.


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham Radio Deluxe: some new features

Post by Peter Halpin
I see from the stats file that 43 K2 users have registered as
Ham Radio Deluxe users: I have to say that I'd expected more,
'cos what do people do with all those KIO2s?

Some of us are as picky about our computers as we are about our radios=20
and use Apples.

73,

--=20
Thomas M. Beaudry
k8la / ys1ztm
K2 # 3422

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[Julian (G4ILO)]

Not to denigrate your efforts, Peter, but you're still a long way short
of what MixW can do, so that's why my name doesn't appear on your list.

73,

[W2AGN]

Post by Julian (G4ILO)
Not to denigrate your efforts, Peter, but you're still a long way short
of what MixW can do, so that's why my name doesn't appear on your list.
73,

Not that short, from what I found. Certainly not enough difference for $50.00.

[Julian (G4ILO)]

Umm, integrated logging, support for all modes, including SSB (voice
memories), CW (send and receive) SSTV and and most data modes not just
PSK, powerful macro capability that can be used for custom rig control
not just text buffers (e.g. select a CW signal in the waterfall display
and hit one button to center it in a narrow filter), contest support, DX
cluster window, more stuff even I haven't discovered or found a use for yet.

I don't understand why so many folks balk at paying $50 for a bit of
software when many spend more than that just on the tools to build their
new Elecraft kit, never mind the cost of their actual radios. Why will
people pay $100 for a simple box like a rigblaster, but not for the
software they use with it?

As a programmer, I'm not denigrating the work Peter and his colleague
have put in, but a program with the breadth and scope of MixW is the
result of professional development and not many programmers want to
spend that much time on something unless it's how they earn their
living. Look at Linux: so much potential, yet it will never catch up
with Windows because of its reliance on volunteer effort. The state of
ham software seems much the same: umpteen so-so amateur-developed
programs all doing much the same thing, few of which even work together,
and hardly any feature-rich, comprehensive, innovative professional
products. Even MixW probably wouldn't exist if its developers weren't
Ukrainian and able to get by on less money than an American or European
programmer would need. Why do hams consider software to be worth
nothing, unlike the work of hardware designers?

73,

Julian, G4ILO. RSGB, ARRL, G-QRP. K2 SN: 0392.
G4ILO's Shack: http://www.qsl.net/g4ilo

Post by W2AGN

Post by Julian (G4ILO)
Not to denigrate your efforts, Peter, but you're still a long way short
of what MixW can do, so that's why my name doesn't appear on your list.
73,

Not that short, from what I found. Certainly not enough difference for $50.00.

[Dwight N4GSD]

Ok, jump in on this as I own a copy of MixW and Have HRD.

MixW 2.09
Love it, great to use, have demo'd to my club on several events. I
perfer to use MixW as I am still trying to figure out HRD. It has great
logging, and does multimodes.

The two things I don't like about MixW. The frequency reads different than
my K2, no idea why, see HRD. The cool logging software depends on buying a
cd from QRZ or Buckmasters to get the lookup.

HRD 1.0
The frequency read out is right on - perfect. Been meaning to ask this
on the reflector, as to why its right and MixW is wrong. PSK 31 Deluxe, the
Super Brower Mode is the neatest thing I have seen with PSK31. I took it to
a club meeting and it was a show stopper.

Ham Radio Deluxe doesnt have all the modes as MixW but it has possiblities.

Dwight N4GSD

[Phil Verinsky]

The frequency reads different than my K2, no idea why, see HRD

I am currently trying the demo version of MixW 2.10 in RTTY mode and the
frequency reading is good (K2 #3713).

73,
Phil, WB6TQG

[Rich Lentz]

I have been using MixW2 for more than a year. Great foe PSK, RTTY, SSTV.
BUT frequency is off and has been if you Select the Elecraft K2 in the CW
modes. Wrong sideband is used on 15 and below. OK on upper bands. I just
use Kenwood with lower side band CW selected on the lower bands and K2 on
the upper bands. Have sent Nick several emails - no luck fixing it. He may
just be using the Generic Parameters for Radio Interface, either GNU/Radio
(http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/gnuradio.html) or Hamlib
(http://hamlib.sourceforge.net/) - which may be wrong in which case Eric or
Wayne should look at the source files and fix them.



Rich
KE0X

The frequency reads different than my K2, no idea why, see HRD

I am currently trying the demo version of MixW 2.10 in RTTY mode and the
frequency reading is good (K2 #3713).

73,
Phil, WB6TQG

[Peter Halpin]

Hi all,

Post by Julian (G4ILO)
Not to denigrate your efforts, Peter, but you're still
a long way short of what MixW can do, so that's why my=20
name doesn't appear on your list.

OK, that's your choice, Julian.

But can MixW offer full CAT control? Satellite tracking? Voice alerts? =
Voice schedule alerts (we'll have this ready before Saturday) Mapping? A =
decent GUI? Unlimited "virtual memories"? All the other features?

It's like comparing chalk and cheese: MixW is not at all bad as a =
general decoding program, but it's WAY behind HRD when it comes to CAT =
control and the actual PSK31 program. Not to mention the other =
features...

145, Pete =20






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[Charles Greene]

Pete,

HRD is a marvelous program, a work of art, and interfaces to some of Dave's
fine programs, but for operating the digital modes, Mixw is more
useful. For CAT, it can control everything that can be controlled on the
K2 by the use of macros. It also has a half way decent logging function
and the capability to be customized for the various contests. However, for
serious contesting and contest logging, check out N1MM logger (put N1MM in
your browser search window). It's price is right, free. I enjoy using HRD
occasionally and watching your progress, and would recommend it to anyone
for a general interest program, but not for PSK31 and that's the only
digital mode it does. Some of the features such as satellite I do not
currently use, but may in the future. Congratulations on a fine program.

PS, I am on your list.

Post by Peter Halpin
Hi all,

Post by Julian (G4ILO)
Not to denigrate your efforts, Peter, but you're still
a long way short of what MixW can do, so that's why my
name doesn't appear on your list.

OK, that's your choice, Julian.
But can MixW offer full CAT control? Satellite tracking? Voice alerts?
Voice schedule alerts (we'll have this ready before Saturday) Mapping? A
decent GUI? Unlimited "virtual memories"? All the other features?
It's like comparing chalk and cheese: MixW is not at all bad as a general
decoding program, but it's WAY behind HRD when it comes to CAT control and
the actual PSK31 program. Not to mention the other features...
145, Pete
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to that of those who think they've found it already.
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[Julian (G4ILO)]

To be fair to Pete, I've no real interest in a CAT control program per
se. I'd rather operate real controls on a radio than push buttons any
day. I only use the computer because it can generate and decode audio
tones and log contacts better than me. :-) Someone wrote to me a few
months ago saying that they thought in a few years all radios would be
black boxes operated by a computer interface. I've also seen it
suggested that Elecraft should produce a version of the K2 like this, to
be controlled entirely via the KIO2. Well, that's not my cup of tea.

I took a look at N1MM logger and it certainly looks impressive. I'm not
sure what it does for contesting, though. It seems to eliminate the
skill element entirely. There's no need to search for wanted
multipliers, as you can see where they are without even turning on the
receiver. One click to QSY there, press the button to send your call,
one more click to add them to the log when they reply. Given that
software can already decode computer-sent Morse quite reliably, the day
of the fully automated contest robot can't be far away...

73,
--
Julian, G4ILO. RSGB, ARRL, G-QRP. K2 SN: 0392.
G4ILO's Shack: http://www.qsl.net/g4ilo

Charles Greene <***@qsl.net> wrote:

Pete,

HRD is a marvelous program, a work of art, and interfaces to some of Dave's fine programs, but for operating the digital modes, Mixw is more useful. For CAT, it can control everything that can be controlled on the K2 by the use of macros. It also has a half way decent logging function and the capability to be customized for the various contests. However, for serious contesting and contest logging, check out N1MM logger (put N1MM in your browser search window). It's price is right, free. I enjoy using HRD occasionally and watching your progress, and would recommend it to anyone for a general interest program, but not for PSK31 and that's the only digital mode it does. Some of the features such as satellite I do not currently use, but may in the future. Congratulations on a fine program.

PS, I am on your list.

[Vic Rosenthal]

Post by Julian (G4ILO)
I took a look at N1MM logger and it certainly looks impressive. I'm not
sure what it does for contesting, though. It seems to eliminate the
skill element entirely. There's no need to search for wanted
multipliers, as you can see where they are without even turning on the
receiver. One click to QSY there, press the button to send your call,
one more click to add them to the log when they reply.

I operated at a multi-operator setup where the N1MM logger was in use
last weekend. It was connected by telnet to an active packet cluster.
It was quite an experience, as Julian describes. I imagine I could have
done quite well hunting and pouncing without even knowing Morse! As I
tuned the receiver to a loud signal, the call appeared, most of the time
correct. Note that the program wasn't decoding the CW, just comparing
the rx frequency to the cluster spots.

Vic K2VCO

[Wolf-Ruediger Juergens]

Hello,
I tried Hamradio DeLuxe and PSK31 Deluxe together with Mapper. I was
very impressed from these powerfull programs. PSK Superbrowser is
highlight. Gives you a fine overview over the psk segment.
The scanning feature of Hamradio is also very nice. But I missed
something in Hamradio.
At first I did not see the funktionkey's 0-9. Also It would be a nice
feature to have a Zero-beat indicator for cw. It should be no problem
to add a Zero-beat to Hamradio. Maybe a small part of the psk engine
could be used for that. IMHO.

72 Wolf, DL2WRJ